Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Nguyen (basketball)
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The result was delete. Tone 08:56, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NHOOPS, not drafted, only played in the VBA. Passing mentions only in reliable sources so fails WP:GNG. JC7V-constructive zone 04:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 06:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:GNG with lack of significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. The only signficant coverage I found was this article at AseanSports.com, which I am not familiar with but will give benefit of the doubt that it is reliable. Does not meet SNG WP:NHOOPS either.—Bagumba (talk) 08:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I added a few sources to the article to at least source the statements there. It is possible there are some sources in the Vietnamese speaking media, a super short search turned these up [1] [2]. I might take a better look at it tonight. — Dammit_steve (talk) 09:33, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- This doesn't necessarily apply to you, but my usual caveat is that unless we are fluent in the foreign language or familiar with the publisher's country, many on English Wikipedia too readily assume that any hit on Google is a reliable source, whereas we'd be more able to filter promotional, non-reliable, or non-independent sources written in English from countries which we are more familiar. For sports, it's all too common that non-notable bios are created because a writer mistakenly believes that any pro player in the world is inherently notable and deserves an article.—Bagumba (talk) 10:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- No offence taken on my part. In AFD discussions like these where I'm unfamiliar with the league and the country media I usually stay neutral and just post possible reliable sources to help others decide. Dammit_steve (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Google translate makes these sources pretty easy to assess. To me they seem fair - I would certainly want significantly more to pass GNG, but more than a passing mention. Sort of moves the bar in the right direction but doesn't demonstrate enough. Just as importantly, both sources are from the same publisher, so we only have one not terribly impressive source here.Rlendog (talk) 15:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- No offence taken on my part. In AFD discussions like these where I'm unfamiliar with the league and the country media I usually stay neutral and just post possible reliable sources to help others decide. Dammit_steve (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- This doesn't necessarily apply to you, but my usual caveat is that unless we are fluent in the foreign language or familiar with the publisher's country, many on English Wikipedia too readily assume that any hit on Google is a reliable source, whereas we'd be more able to filter promotional, non-reliable, or non-independent sources written in English from countries which we are more familiar. For sports, it's all too common that non-notable bios are created because a writer mistakenly believes that any pro player in the world is inherently notable and deserves an article.—Bagumba (talk) 10:31, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 22:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 22:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Definitely doesn't meet the notability criteria for basketball players. As best I can tell, WP:GNG is not met, either. Papaursa (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep NHOOPS is not met, but that's not as thorough a guideline as some of the other NSPORTS guidelines. I think there's enough coverage in Vietnamese to meet GNG. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- The sources in Vietanemse aren't impressive as stated by Rlendog and they don't show that he passes NSPorts or WP:GNG. He fails WP:NHOOPs as you state too. Plus nearly all basketball players from that league don't have articles. JC7V-constructive zone 20:20, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - As discussed, doesn’t seem to meet WP:GNG. Rikster2 (talk) 12:11, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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